will tell this story tomorrow night, everything from taking the camera in there, setting it up, the environment, what he heard, what upset him, what motivated him, how he followed up, did his own research, and how he made the connections to reach out to people. this is a man who is -- i think has tremendous amount of integrity, and is not really a political, but someone that was aware of the seriousness of the discussion taking place in the presidential election, and i will give you this caveat that when it was recorded, he didn't know what to do with it. he actually sat on it for several weeks, tossed and turned, lost sleep over it, and he explains it all tomorrow night. >> wow. that is amazing. ed, can you tell us what made him want to come forward right now to tell his story after staying out of the limelight while it was breaking so big, why haven't we heard from him before now? why does he want to talk now? >> because of the clip you just played, rachel, when mitt romney on march 3rd went on fox news and was still in denial and said things that just didn't square up, he thought it was time